DISQUS

Duct Tape Marketing: Seth Godin Thinks You’re Boring

  • Joseph T. Dager · 11 months ago
    I agree totally. I think when you role out of bed each day, you should not say to yourself: "How can I be remarkable today, but how can I start my day by being remarkable!" Set you standards for the day before getting caught up in the mundane!
  • Chad · 11 months ago
    Was there a problem with the sound when the interview started? I wasn't getting anything, but I will certainly download the session now.
  • John Jantsch · 11 months ago
    @Chad - yes, we did have an issue with the Internet audio part - sorry about that - it's worth a listen though.
  • Dmitri Eroshenko · 11 months ago
    Yep. Compared to Seth Going just about everyone is boring.
  • Dmitri Eroshenko · 11 months ago
    OUCH! Seth Godin of course. My bad :)
  • Click and Inc · 11 months ago
    Ha ha It's true. People have short attention spans so it is hard to stay interesting. Very nice though.
  • Micah · 11 months ago
    I know this isn't directly related to the topic of the conversation, but I especially liked the comment about how facebook is a platform not a community. 150 million people use it in 150 million different ways.
  • Dan and Deanna · 11 months ago
    Good content is king. You can have great content and not know how to get it in front of people. That is why sites like yours are great at letting people learn what they need to know. We just found your site, so we added it to our blog list so that we can come back often. Thanks again.
    Dan and Deanna "Marketing Unscrambled"
  • John Jantsch · 11 months ago
    @Dan and Deanna - glad you found us - don't be a stranger.
  • John Jantsch · 11 months ago
    @Micah - not off topic at all - great comment - on my twitter home page I have a quote I use all of the time in my presentations - Social media is a tool, it's not a religion. I catch some flack for that, but I think we need a dose of reality about some of this stuff so we don't all get carried away, or worse yet, turned off on the awesome power of correctly employing all these new tools to reach our marketing objectives.
  • Jay Sandifer · 11 months ago
    Nice Seth...but I think you're really boring.....(i know...bad joke). Actually, I'd rather say: 'thanks'....and...I knew there was something amazing about Jerry Garcia!
  • Joe Pulizzi · 11 months ago
    Thanks for taking the time to put this together John. A great reminder that different is almost always better (if the economy hasn't already given you that kick-in-the-pants reminder that you need).

    Cheers
    Joe
  • Zach Heller · 11 months ago
    I love the title of this post, he probably does think most of us are boring. It inspired me to write a post today on the need for social media participation within a company, and the need for a person to fill the "social media manager" job role.

    http://zachheller.com/2009/01/15/hire-a-social-...

    Thanks guys. And thanks to Seth for his notorious "constructive criticism".
  • Justin Chen · 11 months ago
    Thanks for organizing this and making the recording available. Real motivating and inspiring. Nice summary of Seth's big messages too.
  • John Jantsch · 11 months ago
    @Joe - how's your book coming? Happy to put this together and you are right, nothing like the silence of the phone to create some focus.
  • John Jantsch · 11 months ago
    @Justin - yes the twitter bites add a nice touch I think and maybe demonstrates a little about how to utilize this kind of integration
  • Joe Pulizzi · 11 months ago
    Thanks for asking John. Hardcover sales are going great. Here's the book site (http://www.getcontentgetcustomers.com).

    McGraw-Hill is publishing the paperback, which will be released this June.

    Content marketing is a very timely subject - as you know.

    jp
  • Appointment Calendar Guy · 11 months ago
    If I understood Seth, he gave advice that businesses should be more like churches or synagogues. Let's ponder that for a moment...In the christian church "niche" there are products such as tapes, books, church buildings, pews, etc. Churches have services such as sermons, bible study, choir ministry, drama ministry, health and wellness ministry, etc. However the ultimate long lasting attractiveness of the church really has nothing to do with those products and services. What people want from a church is a place where they can connect with God among others who want to connect with connect God in a more intimate way. The pastor is the one who leads the tribe of people to God and shows them how to connect using all of the above products and services as supporting tools. There is something special and remarkable about a congregation of people in one place that meet that criteria. That's what people want from a church in the christian church "niche". Why? Because people have a need and desire to fill an empty spot in their lives that can only be filled by the Lord God. So, with that...how can you restructure your business to fit that model for the desires of your customers and potential customers. Clearly, we have some "unlearning" to do.
  • Chestin Salisbury · 11 months ago
    It's especially easy in service businesses to get stuck in the rut of being boring. I mean what's exciting about lawn care or plumbing?

    In reality, NOTHING. That's why it's our job as marketers to find and create reasons to make things interesting and exciting.

    As always, Seth delivers the goods!
  • Small Business Marketing · 11 months ago
    Perhaps they aren't talking about you because your product is just not relevant to them. That does not by itself make your company or your product boring. If you don't use makeup and don't talk about it, that does not make any makeup product boring.

    Seth's comment only relates to your market sector and those who are your potential clients.
  • J Sandifer · 11 months ago
    This was great...appreciate the resource here! Guess I will go figure out how to be relevant and not boring! :) Starting today!
  • sierratec · 11 months ago
    Imagine… there’s no remarkable
    The other day I bumped into someone Seth Godin may call “boring” -- a woman who approached me for money. Her “pitch” was not remarkable, her cause was not remarkable, nor her career. She was not in a remarkable location wearing remarkable clothes. She didn’t “wow” me with the results of her fundraising campaign or the return on my investment or how the marketplace was discussing her or her campaign.
    She didn’t have a blog, let alone internet access, and couldn’t have paid for it if it were available. She and the child she had with her didn’t strike me as remarkable, maybe just malnourished?
    Remarkable doesn’t imply value; it is just as likely to be on the right side of the bell curve as it is to be on the left. Would she have to choose more hungry, more poor, more underserved to be remarkable, to get the marketplace to care?
    Sprinkle some good value behind “remarkable un-boring” discussions and hopefully this will appropriately influence the marketplace.
  • John Jantsch · 11 months ago
    @sierratec - I guess value and remarkable do go together but I fail to grasp your analogy - are you suggesting this woman would or would not need to do something different to beat out her competition, well, as long as we are being absurd, there are remarkable homeless folks who stand out at the objectives they have set, nobody said you need a blog to be remarkable.
  • sierratec · 11 months ago
    Thanks for your comment John. With my analogy I would like to suggest that remarkable and value "should" go together.
    Since remarkable is the exception on both the yin and yang side of average, I hope we don’t encourage marketers to strive for it without more importantly striving for the underlying value of what being on that edge means. Could it be that unremarkable isn't as boring as unworthiness? OK, I may be way too naïve with my analogy, but I would hope that an unremarkable small business woman campaigning for a real and worthy need would be less “boring” than a very remarkable, unworthy campaign (and a lot of folks could probably give me great examples of those). I would hope she wouldn’t need to be remarkable for her share of the pie.
    I feel that remarkable is not a choice -- it could be a consequence and if so, let’s at least equally promote being very cognizant and respectful of the value our contribution makes along the way?
  • Sam C. · 11 months ago
    Is not the value (or for arguing sake the "perceived value") what makes one remarkable?
  • sierratec · 11 months ago
    An interesting question Sam C, and separate point to debate. What makes a U.S. Super Bowl commercial remarkable for example? Is it the amount of money spent on it, the number of eyeballs that view it or the impact it has on solving poverty? It could be any or ALL of the three. Thus the problem with remarkable and the need for a more worthy value goal. Especially for duct tape marketers who may not have the time, money, risk for a remarkable Super Bowl budget. So more than remarkable, I suggest to focus on worthy, and in fact, Seth Godin will also tell us how to do this…
    http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2009/01...
  • purchase iphone · 11 months ago
    Or is it something to do with Godin rhyming with borin? :D
  • Kelly Magowan · 11 months ago
    Enjoyable and thought provoking, thank you.
  • Linas Sablovskis · 11 months ago
    Awesome stuff!

    The best part: oh, they may rest in peace

    Brilliant! :)
  • Dennis D. Balajadia · 11 months ago
    So simple yet so profound. Very Seth Godin! This recording is highly recommended. Listened to it three times, and I'm still learning something new!
  • Nina · 10 months ago
    Like Sam C. noted in a realier post, it is the percieved value that makes one stand out. And how does one get that percieved value? It depends on what the reader/client wants and values...it is a matter of opinion. Of course I believe there are a smaller audience if you write/sell pure crap than when you'd sell.. umm, diamonds for example. If you know your reader/client then it is impossible to have borung marketing. So, ultimately it boils down to; WHO is YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE?
  • Carlo/Carlo At Your Service Pr · 10 months ago
    Sometimes something can be so simple (and brilliant at the same time) that people just don't get it. Seth's thoughts and ideas about marketing today are built on the same principals that the Obama presidential marketing campaign was built on. And, we know who won that race. Either you get that or you don't. As far as I'm concerned, it speaks for itself.
  • The Divine Miss White · 9 months ago
    Seth Godin has a way of cutting through the fluff, without causing offense. Straight from the hip...

    I have linked this interview on my blog on my speaker profile. Members check in with regularly as my profile is the most active on this site.

    I do hope a couple of people stop by, as this is a first class interview.